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How did you learn DataStage?

1. Official IBM training
293
22%
2. Time off at work to read documentation and study
99
8%
3. Installed DataStage on my PC and played around with it
148
11%
4. Learning on the job with a seasoned DataStage professional
268
20%
5. Thrown into a project with no training and no assistance except DSXchange
322
24%
6. Using a local official trainer (using IBM's materials)
49
4%
7. Using a local trainer (using their materials)
84
6%
8. Using a custom ordered course from an independant expert
15
1%
9. None of the above (please post how you learned as a reply to this poll)
41
3%
 
Total votes: 1319

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How did you learn DataStage?

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Hi All,
Recently Arnd poped an interesting question,
How did our community learn to use this product?

Please take a minute to answer this poll :)

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I posted as "other" because I was an employee of VMark Software then Ardent Software then Informix then IBM. I learned DataStage by preparing to teach classes and by providing technical support for the product.
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I voted #1 as that was where it all started. Of course there's been plenty of self-study over the years but classes from Ardent / Ascential and Informix were the foundation. Oh, and for RTI there was #4. :wink:
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How about adding number 10 to the poll?

10. I learned by posting questions to the DSXchange forum.
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ditto (Ray's answer) for me.

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Version 0.0 Beta "Tiger Team" at VMark for me - they threw me at a customer before anyone thought of even planning to write the documentation.
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eostic wrote:ditto (Ray's answer) for me.

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Funny, but the first documentation I received (back in the day when you still got printed manuals) still said VMark on them. :wink:
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Indeed! We're all still on the same team (this whole forum!), but many of us also used to have the same folks sign our paychecks.... ;)

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Did you get PAID ?!!
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I took both beginner and advance courses through IBM and I still learn more through trial and error. It has been a frustrating learning process and there is very limited knowledge in Canada. I know that IBM want to gain a bigger market but they will need to provide better support. Thank god this forum exists as it is the most valuable way to retrieve information.

Hopefully, this product takes off as there are limited jobs in Canada.
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Raftsman - for a while (during my wait for my US visa) I was working out of the Toronto office and we had a number of early adopters including Shoppers Drug Mart and I thought that the DS market was doing quite well. Then again, it has been a couple of years... Or are you referring to the Francophone parts of Canada and product support in French?
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I learned Torrent Orchestrate first on my own then took DataStage classes from Ascential when the product was assimilated into DataStage.
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ArndW, I am located in Ottawa, Ontario. There are only 3 or 4 Datastage shops. Mostly, Server. I hooked up with a contract with the EE version. What worries me is that when the contract ends, I will have limited opportunities to continue with this product unless more departments jump on the bandwagon. I chose to leave a permanent position on the premise that IBM would be able to gain market share. Let hope they can otherwise, I may need to travel to find work. It is a gamble but so far so good.
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I have been working in Mainframes and then moved to datastage when a conversion project came up. This project was to migrate mainframe code to datastage. I was given training but ended up preparing design documents by analysing mainframe code. This was frustrating.
Eventhough I got datastage training , I got to touch it 8 months after training. By that time , I was all away from the basics. Had to depend on some datastage experts in the team for the start up.
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