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I search, but all I find is other searchers

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:53 am
by PhilHibbs
Someone wrote:Search!
This question has been answered in detail before.
I'd like to propose a new forum "rule". If someone posts a question and gets directed to the Search feature, and they then find a helpful post in their search, they should reply in their new thread with a link to what they found that helped them. That way, as the search results get increasingly polluted with "How do I do X": "USE THE SEARCH!" threads, someone searching for X will actually find a useful answer.

I've found that this is a real problem. I do a search for something, and the first 20 results that I look at are all people being told to use the search.

"If you follow me, you will not find what I found". Lets prove that wrong!

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:37 am
by chulett
I've had the exact same problem. Searching for something I know is out there somewhere can get drowned out by posts that just say to search for it. I usually try to give examples of what to search for and/or post an example of what I found.

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:43 am
by PhilHibbs
Perhaps some mechanism to exclude a thread from the search results would be helpful.

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:34 pm
by ray.wurlod
Well there IS a filter to search only for resolved topics.

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:46 am
by PhilHibbs
If I asked a question and was told "Use the search", and I used the search and found an answer, I'd mark it as "resolved".

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:55 am
by BI-RMA
If You do that and post the link to the answer that solved Your question, then everybody else will be able to find the solution, too.

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:12 am
by PhilHibbs
What a brilliant idea! Someone should suggest that in the Site/Forum... oh wait, that's exactly what this thread is about. Yes. People should do that. That's my suggestion.

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:22 am
by DSguru2B
You crack me up PhilHibbs.

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:59 am
by PhilHibbs
Ok, here's a classic example. A colleague came to me for advice on a warning, "inserted sort does not fulfill the sort requirements of the downstream operator", so I searched here for that phrase and a variety of subsets of it, and in every single result, all I could see was "Use the forum search functon" answers. Absolutely no useful suggestions at all. Specifically, this post:

viewtopic.php?t=114516&highlight=insert ... m+operator

Search for that phrase, and there is exactly one result - that same post.

Is there another post that used to be returned by a search for that phrase, but no longer is?

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:13 am
by chulett
Make sure you do an exact search and don't include too much text... there is a bug (feature?) in the other searches in that they only go back in time a small number of days, no clue why. The exact search searches everything. I got 57 matches on "does not fulfill the sort requirements", for whatever that is worth. Hmmm... sounds like that's what you did.

And yes, I feel your pain. I'm as guilty of making those posts as anyone and when I've actually tried to find a useful link for someone, there have been times when all I've found are the "you are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike" messages. :wink: